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Fish

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:06 pm
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hi there,

my family is looking at buying a welsh terrier puppy. i'm just
wondering if anybody has any information for us? i'd like to know
everything about them, how much do they bark? how easy/hard are they
to train? some places ive looked said they can be aggressive, is this
true? are they good for allergy sufferers?

Thanks alot,

dave

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Janet Boss

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:16 pm
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Fish wrote:

>
> my family is looking at buying a welsh terrier puppy. i'm just
> wondering if anybody has any information for us? i'd like to know
> everything about them, how much do they bark? how easy/hard are they
> to train? some places ive looked said they can be aggressive, is this
> true? are they good for allergy sufferers?

Most of the ones I've known have been biters. Obviously there are a lot
of factors there, but they are terriers. That means they can be barky,
stubborn, and tenacious. Their coat is generally tolerated pretty well
by allergy sufferers, but personality and temperament as well as
activity level, should all be things your family should be well matched
to. Have you met any? What lead you to the choice?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:52 pm
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On Feb 2, 10:16 pm, Janet Boss
wrote:
> In article
> ,
>
> Fish wrote:
>
> > my family is looking at buying a welsh terrier puppy. i'm just
> > wondering if anybody has any information for us? i'd like to know
> > everything about them, how much do they bark? how easy/hard are they
> > to train? some places ive looked said they can be aggressive, is this
> > true? are they good for allergy sufferers?
>
> Most of the ones I've known have been biters. Obviously there are a lot
> of factors there, but they are terriers. That means they can be barky,
> stubborn, and tenacious. Their coat is generally tolerated pretty well
> by allergy sufferers, but personality and temperament as well as
> activity level, should all be things your family should be well matched
> to. Have you met any? What lead you to the choice?
>
> --
> Janet Bosswww.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

what lead us to the choice was i have seen some at my my soccer games,
some of the families have some, but also one of our family friends had
airedale terriers and we loved the look of them, but thought they were
too big for us, so we landed on welsh terriers
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Janet Boss

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:12 am
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Fish wrote:

>
> what lead us to the choice was i have seen some at my my soccer games,
> some of the families have some, but also one of our family friends had
> airedale terriers and we loved the look of them, but thought they were
> too big for us, so we landed on welsh terriers

The personalities aren't the same.

If you know one of the families with a WT well, you may offer to pet sit
to get a better idea if you like the kind of activity level, how you
react (or not) allergy wise, etc. If you like one of the dogs in
particular, ask those people to share the name of the breeder.

Nothing beats spending time with a dog of a breed that you are
interested in, to make or break a deal. Even so, realize that only so
much is nature and a good deal is nurture. Be prepared to take training
classes with any new dog.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:10 pm
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Janet Boss said in
rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

>> what lead us to the choice was i have seen some at my my
>> soccer games, some of the families have some, but also one
>> of our family friends had airedale terriers and we loved
>> the look of them, but thought they were too big for us, so
>> we landed on welsh terriers
>
> The personalities aren't the same.

Not at all. While my experience with Welsh Terriers is
different from yours, Janet, they're way different from
Airedales - I've never seen a biter or a nipper, but they're
*very* independent to the point of totally ignoring their
handler.

(As an aside, what similarities and differences do you see in
the attidues of Welsh, Lakeland, and Irish Terriers? I've
only looked after one Irish, and he was prone to nip *at* the
handler when he didn't get his way.)

> Nothing beats spending time with a dog of a breed that you
> are interested in, to make or break a deal. Even so,
> realize that only so much is nature and a good deal is
> nurture.

Yep, sometimes nurture can beat nature and you can lose the
attitude the dog was hopefully bred for. The OP needs to meet
a whole bunch of terriers. While I respect real terrier
attitude, it wouldn't fit in here long term.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:10 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:54 pm
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"Fish" wrote in message

> hi there,
>
> my family is looking at buying a welsh terrier puppy. i'm just
> wondering if anybody has any information for us? i'd like to know
> everything about them, how much do they bark? how easy/hard are they
> to train? some places ive looked said they can be aggressive, is this
> true? are they good for allergy sufferers?
>
> Thanks alot,
>
> dave

My advice to people looking at a breed they are unfamiliar with is always go
to a dog show and talk to the people who are showing them. Find out what
they are like to live with, what health problems are common in the breed,
etc.
How would a terrier fit in with your life style in terms of exercise,
grooming, training, other animals in the household?
Lots of breeds are great to look at but I wouldn't want to live with them!
Do lots of "homework" before you decide on any dog.

Margaret
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:37 am
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"Margaret" said in
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> My advice to people looking at a breed they are unfamiliar
> with is always go to a dog show and talk to the people who
> are showing them.

Very good advice. Plus, most of them are willing to give you
the downsides. Plus plus, they're willing to talk forever.

I like having discussions with the folks at conformation shows.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:48 pm
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On Feb 5, 1:37 am, Rocky wrote:
> "Margaret" said in
> rec.pets.dogs.breeds:
>
> > My advice to people looking at a breed they are unfamiliar
> > with is always go to a dog show and talk to the people who
> > are showing them.
>
> Very good advice. Plus, most of them are willing to give you
> the downsides. Plus plus, they're willing to talk forever.
>
> I like having discussions with the folks at conformation shows.
>
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

so do you think airedales would be better? are they a little more
relaxed?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:23 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:04 pm
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In article ,
Fish wrote:
>so do you think airedales would be better? are they a little more
>relaxed?

I think they're one of the easiest terriers. But I also
think that the advice to go talk to owners at a dog show is
terrific. I can't imagine commiting to a breed for the next
10-15 years without having met one.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:45 am
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Fish said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

> so do you think airedales would be better? are they a
> little more relaxed?

"Better" is a hard thing to define. It's important to get out
and meet the dogs and their owners and their breeders.

FWIW, the young Airedale terriers I know are way more active
than the Welsh and Lakeland and Irish terriers I know. The
latter breeds are also easy to pick up.

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